Ches Smith is an intensely talented drummer and a true road dog. He's been touring for over fifteen years with Secret Chiefs 3,Xiu-Xiu, Tim Berne, Ben Goldberg, Mr Bungle, John Zorn and many others. He's one of the most in demand drummers around and for good reason- he fucking rules. For this talk Ches and I discuss heavy touring, balancing family and music life, and his introduction to Haitian music. This is a good one with a good dude.