Matthew Shipp is a pianist of stunning virtuosity and personality. Since his move to New York in 1984 he has made a signifcant impact on the city's improvised and jazz scenes. For this conversation Matt and I get real, very real, as we talk about everything from his time as a nude model for art classes, his tenure with the David S. Ware Quartet, professional wrestling and the challenges of being a creative musician in 2013. This is a lively and raw talk that I am happy to present. Matt is the real thing.